Merzbow

Massive_Anus 書き込み：

just discovered dust of dreams. so great.

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PiecesOfQuiet 書き込み：

Also, in reference to AKS, there are noise projects who intentionally rush. Incapacitants, as an example of a more "famous" project, try and keep their stuff free of human intention.

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PiecesOfQuiet 書き込み：

@tenebrific: While I see what you're getting at, its not significantly different from any other genre in terms of separating what you like and what you don't. Take last.fm, you find one group you like and follow the similar artists, or see what people are shouting about. You can go to the many noise forums and pick up on word of mouth, talking to people who are knowledgeable being the best approach in my opinion. Also, if you like a lot of releases by a particular label you can just keep collecting their stuff. With download blogs everywhere its pretty easy to sample almost anything. You just have to be willing to do the grunt work.

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AppleKabukiSuri 書き込み：

If you are concerned with what is good or bad, hot or not, hep or square, then you shouldn't be listenin' to noise ya dig?

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AppleKabukiSuri 書き込み：

When I'm at a noise gig if Sean Baxter says "brooooooootal" at the end of someone's set, I know that I just heard some good noise.

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AppleKabukiSuri 書き込み：

In order to figure out if noise is good or not I place my speakers on the ground and place a piece of glass over the top of them. Then I start the song and pour salt, or any other similar item I've got lying around, onto the glass. Once the song is over I look at the pattern the salt has formed and I do a painting based on this pattern. Then when go to my psychiatrist I have them access the quality of my work and appropriate their reviews of my paintings to the quality of the noise track it was inspired by.

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ColonelTheSlav 書き込み：

@Tenebrific: I find them through splits and compilations. So far that's the best method for me to find out more noise that I like. How is expertly crafted noise supposed to sound anyway? Wouldn't that sound like music haha?

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AppleKabukiSuri 書き込み：

Merzbow's initial lack of polish is different to that of a regular band because there isn't a clear intent. You can't listen to an early Merzbow track and think, well the playing is a bit messy in that part and the levels aren't all that good.

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AppleKabukiSuri 書き込み：

In music, imperfections are noise. In noise imperfections, are noise.

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AppleKabukiSuri 書き込み：

Why finely crafted is better than rushed? Something thrown together with scant regard for quality is the product of chance, whereas something finely crafted is weighed down by human intention.

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Tenebrific 書き込み：

I have a serious question for people here actually. If you're willing to take it seriously. There are tens of thousands of noise bands located throughout lastfm and the internet in general. A good portion of them are garbage and not really worth listening to. So my question is this, with all the immense varieties in noise (power electronics, death industrial, harsh noise, to name a few), how do you manage to filter the finely crafted, painstakingly beautiful album from the ones that guy made who literally took 5 minutes to make his entire album? Plays/listeners isn't always an accurate indication.

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Tenebrific 書き込み：

That statement could really be used to describe any band that has lasted and continued producing music for a significant period of time though. All musicians start out unpolished, then gradually refine their product over the years. Its not necessarily a bad thing, but I think a lot of people prefer the rough imperfections of an artist first beginning their craft. Its not something you can usually expect from a more experienced artist though. Once they know what they're doing, those imperfections are often the first thing to disappear.

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AppleKabukiSuri 書き込み：

A lot of his early stuff wasn't great, but it was interesting; it was awkward, unpolished and dada. You can hear someone figuring out noise when you listen to his earlier work. The concept and the ideas behind the noise are much more apparent because you can hear the faults and hear the experimentation that is taking place.

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PiecesOfQuiet 書き込み：

Eh I see what you're saying but he's produced some terrible laptop albums. Not to say his analogue stuff was always great either, but Merzbeat or Merzbuddha or any of the Merz stuff really didn't do it for me.

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auroranoise 書き込み：

I hate it when people shoot down Merzbow's work now because he switched to using laptops. I think it's still just as interesting, although I do miss the walls of noise. Pulse Demon, Venereology, Amlux and Merzbeat will always be favorites.

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NINlife 書き込み：

skins? merzbow on glee kicks ass a lot more girl

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Tenebrific 書き込み：

The Merzbow tribute album was pretty good. Learned of some more interesting noise musicians.

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LauncelotGobbo 書き込み：

Green Wheels as well.

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