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max1978
«Its hard to go in to exactly what I do when I sing since some things are "by nature" and just comes naturally. What I use most when I sing is a technique called "belting". For you who dont know what kinda vocal sound types normally are talked about there are different sounds and techniques to use when singing. This technique is a way to come very high up by pushing the vocal chords together, slamming them against each other, so that no air at all can leak through. If any air leaks through it can make the voice soar and aching.» (from anette's blog) That is, singing without air, indeed interesting technic. its her natural voice, not something she learned with a teacher. So if she takes lessons, she doesnt learn from it.
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max1978
Note that you make wrong supposition here, Malmo is easy to find, of course i found it. Also note that it really does not matter finding the university she pretends to attend "nowadays, when needed". You have to understand that Singing is NOT something you can learn from occasionnal classes, but only from a serious voice training: extensive work, countless hours over YEARS. Thats something she may had the possibility to do at that «music conservatorie» that no one can yet find. Now, saying «Copenhagen Music Conservatorie, Helsingor» equals «The Royal Danish Academy of Music, Frederiksberg» does not make much sense to me, they have nothing in comon except the term "music", how could they be the same? Only in your Imaginearum, Anette and her fans. Note that I stll love (and lol) how you guys turn every message on ME instead of on my messages.
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JenLawliet
Can't find it online = it doesn't exist = Anette has never had any singing lessons = Max's life finally has some meaning.
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JenLawliet
Hey Anette fans, my name is Max, look how intelligent I am! Anette sucks! This is a FACT! No one can argue against this! Because I said so. Because I'm over 30 and have really complex ideas, like 100times more complex than any of you - check out this last.fm group! People are discussing movies & video games, it's so deep! I belong to it so this proves my intellect is above everyone else! This is also a FACT! Anette can't sing! Know why? Because she has a private tutor! Get real! I take English lessons, it's basically the same thing, so I know Anette Olzon can't sing. Why aren't you as deep as me? I'm here to tell the truth! This is a FACT! Why are there no real discussions? Oh did I mention Anette SUCKS? [End Impersonation] Just in case you were curious as to why no one was taking you seriously. Keep trollin, trollin, trollin..
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max1978
@Profoundemonium do you really beleive what you type in? please quote me, when did i say something about «what people should and shouldn't listen to» and what «i prefer to listen»? After that, what is that intellectual capacity thingy based on? Just your imagination? .... and good luck on interviewing everyone that reads this page to find out if anyone changed his mind. Im here to talk about the truth, are you here to spread lies and fiction?
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max1978
thanks Jim for bringing a real discussion in here. i tried to dig deeper into this ... which is harder than i though. About the «Copenhagen music conservatorie»: Copenhagen and Helsingor are 2 distinc cities about 45km from each other, although she seems to confuse them. can anyone explain? Also, Google finds no perfect match with it anyway, its probably closed... oh wait, even if its closed, internet would keep track of it. Why is she focussing on a PRIVATE teacher? I also used to have a private teacher (english, yes!), had about 5hours classes, no final evaluation, no diploma, and no noticable improvement since even now i can easily swap letters. (haha) The Malmo place got more credibility with bachelor and master singing programs (3 and 5 years) but again, its a private teacher and only «when its needed». One may ask: how many days of classes did she attend from each of these?
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JimKnopf-
"Other facts are that Anette never did a singing lesson of her whole career" That's not a fact. It's just wrong. [url=http://nightwish.com/en/band/members/facts?id=16]"In my earlier days I took singing lessons at the Copenhagen Music Conservatorie, in Helsingör, Denmark with a private teacher. Nowadays, when its needed, I take lessons from a private teacher at the Malmö Music University."[/url]
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JenLawliet
You really need to stop relying on last-fm as your ultimate source of information, Max. For someone who professes intelligence, this is quite dumb. If a slim minority have listened to her two unreleased demos, that doesn't mean those are her *only* fans, perhaps the majority don't care for illegally ripping her material. Just a passing thought. & yes I do consider equating me to tween girl who likes to run her empty mouth as insulting, borderline demeaning, especially when you're flying off at tangent every chance you get.
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Profoundemonium
I'm not a big fan of Anette, but I wouldn't go around telling people what they should and shouldn't listen to. Max is one of the oldest people leaving comments on this page, yet seems to have the intellectual capacity of a 9 year old. No-one cares what you prefer to listen to and your childish rambling isn't going to change anyones mind.
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max1978
I was sure i once saw a "17" when stoping my mouse over your name. maybe its another person... sorry bout that.It doesnt change the FACT that you spoke way too long from the most tiny idea i ever witnessed. Fact, scroll down if you dont remember. Other facts are that Anette never did a singing lesson of her whole career, and she reports her new outfits on her blog periodically. Now if you read insults between the lines, its not my problem, maybe its a natural power i got to make yourself insult your favorite singer. I could sure add some real insults just to show you the difference between facts and insults... but thats not the way i use neurones, i prefer making observations people never posted before (another fact: 7 fans this week! what happens when minority reaches 0? Are they still considered right?) and make some deductions from it. What if her lack of vocal preparation is the ultimate insult to people attending her gigs?
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JenLawliet
I have a feeling this part might shock you but I am not a teenage girl – oh no, the horror. I am in my mid-twenties. But to be honest, I’m not sure which is worse, the fact that I can come across as a teenager or the fact that you are in your thirties and you still think insulting a person you perceived to be half your age is somehow appropriate. And now I make another shocking revelation! I grew out of this general nastiness, being insulting to an artist and/or their fans a long time ago. I don’t see it as the conduct of an adult. It’s never called for, it’s just unnecessary. And in the end what does it win you? Nada. Nothing. Zippo.
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JenLawliet
Well I for one am certain that that made complete sense and didn't make you look a psycho-Tarjafan-troll with nothing better to do. Please stop now, you really are looking the fool.
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max1978
ya right, youre afraid to look deeper into hundreds of subjects there, and anything in the movie section is still 100x more complex than "look, 2 swapped letters!". Any though is at least 100x this. and she needs to take singing lessons, instead of shoping for clothes and show them on her blog. But guess what, she really dont care about vocals just has much as her 15 fans.
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JenLawliet
I'm not entirely convinced the person who frequents Anette Olzon's last.fm page in order to insult her and her fans can claim to possess "deeper thought". Perhaps I'll join that group another time, perhaps when movies and greatest video games are not the subject matter. That shits too deep for me m'fraid.
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JenLawliet
"Anette sux and you can't express the opposite" and "I write ideas 100x more complex than yours". That you do Max, that you do.
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max1978
im geting used to those Anette fans who just ignores the main idea and focus on 2 letters, FYI i speak english like 20 mins per year, i read english less than 30mins per week and i write less than 2 mins a week, taken that into account, i find my grammar totaly satisfying to express ideas 100x more complex than yours. i yet can still use your shit language: STFU because Anette sux and you cant express the opposite. just making sure here that i am as clear as possible, this is NOT my native tongue.
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You_must_die
I just can't understand how I can love her more than I do now... But it's happening!!! <3
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moonshadow0
Oops, spelled "Invincible" wrong in the file name, oh well, you can change it. xD Sorry!
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moonshadow0
Here is [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?tbv3l3b0y599e2d]Invincible[/url] and [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?zd7wjelb8y6xrkr]Floating[/url], unfortunately at 160 and in wma format, not 360. Sorry, can't make it in higher quality. :)
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moonshadow0
Just saw you uploaded Invincible, my bad. I'm sure we won't be the only to upload them anyway :)
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moonshadow0
Her new songs are sweet, I prefer Floating between the two though. I wonder how long it will be until someone uploads them to Youtube. I'm debating doing it myself, but I'm unsure if Anette would like it or not if I did.
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JenLawliet
For further proof, just compare the tags here! Anette gets "untalented", "shit", "sucks", "slut", "lesbian", "bitch", "gay" & Tarja... is there even one remotely negative tag for her? Because I sure as hell can't find it.
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JenLawliet
@Filthi Huh, well okay then. Kiddo, you continue your very serious mission of "avenging" your beloved Tarja by making stupid, rude and downright disgusting comments. All it does is make you look dumb and gives Tarja fans a bad name. & if you don't want to mistaken as an obsessive Tarja fangirl, don't act like an obsessive Tarja fangirl.
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ObscureViking
I agree that calling Tarja a slut is also as disgusting, but I haven't seen anyone say that. I've only seen you calling Anette a whore. Why do you need to retaliate to the people who offend Tarja by being just as immature as them and calling Anette names? It makes you as bad as they are. You should rise above it and enjoy listening to Tarja instead of letting these people offend you. The people who say horrible things about our favourite artists don't deserve to even have our attention. You're making yourself look bad by joining in with it.
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ObscureViking
It doesn't actually matter so much whether or not you were speaking to me. You made a comment about Anette and Tarja very soon after I posted my comment so I assumed you could have been replying to me. And don't you think it's a bit ridiculous that you are spending your time actually clicking on Anette's page just to write nasty insults? Do you see how that is childish? "I wouldn't waste your time on her" was not meant to be taken literally. Neither was "Grow up". Perhaps you should work on your understanding of the English language a little more. 'Whore' is a very disgusting thing to call somebody. You have never even met Anette, you don't know her personally. So what gives you the right to call her that?
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ObscureViking
@Filthi You told me to stop "the very pathetic Tarja's criticism and barking" when I never even criticized her. I love Tarja, I would never say bad things about her. But I also have a lot of respect and admiration for Anette because she is a great singer and a wonderful addition to Nightwish. You take any chance you can get to start arguing and saying disgusting things about Anette even when the person you attack hasn't said a bad word about Tarja! It just proves what a close-minded, ignorant girl you are. You need to grow up and stop trying to fight with everyone who disagrees with your small opinion.
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