Group & Country Weekly Charts

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- RJ の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 00:17
Group & Country Weekly Charts

Yesterday was the first time our updated weekly chart framework saw some action. We're now plotting country and group charts, as well as the usual user charts, every Sunday afternoon.

Notice the places link on country pages, and country pages now have their own weekly charts.

Groups with at least 10 members should also have weekly charts now.

Ability to browse past weeks and syndicate charts will appear in a few weeks, once we're happy with the way it's working.

In other news, statistics from badly spelled artists are being merged into the correct spelling, thanks to all the moderations that have been going on. This is about half way complete, and will get a mention on the front page in more detail later this week. Some people may already have noticed that duplicate artists in the top artists list have been merged.

UPDATE: We're going to plot number of unique listeners AND total playcounts for groups, so both options are available (good for small groups).

Information wants to be beer.

[quote][b][user]RJ[/user][/b] さんの発言： Yesterday was the first time our updated weekly chart framework saw some action. We're now plotting country and group charts, as well as the usual user charts, every Sunday afternoon. Notice the [url=/places/]places[/url] link on country pages, and country pages now have their own weekly charts. [url=/groups/]Groups[/url] with at least 10 members should also have weekly charts now. Ability to browse past weeks and syndicate charts will appear in a few weeks, once we're happy with the way it's working. In other news, statistics from badly spelled artists are being merged into the correct spelling, thanks to all the moderations that have been going on. This is about half way complete, and will get a mention on the front page in more detail later this week. Some people may already have noticed that duplicate artists in the top artists list have been merged. [b]UPDATE:[/b] We're going to plot number of unique listeners AND total playcounts for groups, so both options are available (good for small groups). [/quote]
編集者：RJ, 2005年 02月 23日 01:31

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- ttfp の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 00:24
Glad to know things are beginning to take off. Now if only my stats updated. ;)

My stats still show duplicate entries. When they get updated, should they then merge?

[quote][b][user]ttfp[/user][/b] さんの発言： Glad to know things are beginning to take off. Now if only my stats updated. ;) My stats still show duplicate entries. When they get updated, should they then merge?[/quote]

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- RJ の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 00:26
Yes, when those artists are merged, your stats will then show 1 artist instead of 2 identical ones.. only once your lists update tho.
The merging process is slowing down the list generation a tad, but we only have to clear this backlog once, then it's just a handful each day.

Information wants to be beer.

[quote][b][user]RJ[/user][/b] さんの発言： Yes, when those artists are merged, your stats will then show 1 artist instead of 2 identical ones.. only once your lists update tho. The merging process is slowing down the list generation a tad, but we only have to clear this backlog once, then it's just a handful each day.[/quote]

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- Obsydian の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 00:28
Cool.

But....

[ignore]
One small bug. Take a look at Female fronted Metal. Shouldn't Nightwish have more than 66 plays looking at the Top Track plays... or is the count a relative rather than absolute index? [/ignore]

Do we also loose the consolidated top artists and tracks?

Edit: ignore the 'plays' thing. I'm just learning to read :-)

[quote][b][user]Obsydian[/user][/b] さんの発言： Cool. But.... [ignore] One small bug. Take a look at [group]Female fronted Metal[/group]. Shouldn't Nightwish have more than 66 plays looking at the Top Track plays... or is the count a relative rather than absolute index? [/ignore] Do we also loose the consolidated top artists and tracks? Edit: ignore the 'plays' thing. I'm just learning to read :-)[/quote]
編集者：Obsydian, 2005年 02月 22日 00:31

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- catchinstars の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 00:33
I was wondering if names of bands that automatically turn all into CAPS would be changed as well? It's very annoying when they do that :(

Same thing when they're no capital letters at all..

[quote][b][user]catchinstars[/user][/b] さんの発言： I was wondering if names of bands that automatically turn all into CAPS would be changed as well? It's very annoying when they do that :( Same thing when they're no capital letters at all.. [/quote]

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- _Sexy_Pants_ の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 00:37
Progress Progress! Keep up the good work!

[quote][b][user]_Sexy_Pants_[/user][/b] さんの発言： Progress Progress! Keep up the good work![/quote]

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- 2005年 02月 22日 00:40
yeah the new group lists are phat. good work guys

now one person can't ruin a whole groups chart.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] さんの発言： yeah the new group lists are phat. good work guys now one person can't ruin a whole groups chart.[/quote]

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- K1MO の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 00:44
Re: Group & Country Weekly Charts

Quoth RJ:
Groups with at least 10 members should also have weekly charts now..

:'(
we are only 4 persons in the group because we are living together in a flat.. so we'll never get weekly stats?? :((

edit: wahh, what's that?? i had a look to our group page, and it's not only that we have no weekly stats but no stats at all...
sorry to say this, but in the last few months for me audioscrobbler got worse, unpure and complicated

[quote][b][user]K1MO[/user][/b] さんの発言： [quote][b]Quoth RJ[/b]: [url=/groups/]Groups[/url] with at least 10 members should also have weekly charts now..[/quote] :'( [url=http://www.audioscrobbler.com/group/B17waymore]we[/url] are only 4 persons in the group because we are living together in a flat.. so we'll never get weekly stats?? :(( edit: wahh, what's that?? i had a look to [url=http://www.audioscrobbler.com/group/B17waymore]our group page[/url], and it's not only that we have no weekly stats but no stats at all... sorry to say this, but in the last few months for me audioscrobbler got worse, unpure and complicated[/quote]
編集者：K1MO, 2005年 02月 22日 00:51

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- 2005年 02月 22日 00:46
Cool!

Though one of my groups weekly charts looks a bit wrong. The Darkness are top with 5 listens, yet I myself have listened to 101 Smashing Pumpkins songs last week!

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] さんの発言： Cool! Though one of my groups weekly charts looks a bit wrong. The Darkness are top with 5 listens, yet I myself have listened to 101 Smashing Pumpkins songs last week![/quote]

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- Obsydian の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 00:50
Re:

Quoth Nightfreak:
Cool!

Though one of my groups weekly charts looks a bit wrong. The Darkness are top with 5 listens, yet I myself have listened to 101 Smashing Pumpkins songs last week!

As someone who has just learnt to read...

Chart values indicate the number of different group members who listened to a given item in the past week.

[quote][b][user]Obsydian[/user][/b] さんの発言： [quote][b]Quoth Nightfreak[/b]: Cool! Though one of my groups weekly charts looks a bit wrong. The Darkness are top with 5 listens, yet I myself have listened to 101 Smashing Pumpkins songs last week![/quote] As someone who has just learnt to read... [quote]Chart values indicate [b]the number of different group members[/b] who listened to a given item in the past week.[/quote] [/quote]

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- K1MO の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 00:57
Re:

Quoth PhatCam:
yeah the new group lists are phat. good work guys

now one person can't ruin a whole groups chart.

ruin?? when a member is able to join a group he doesn't ruin charts, he brings new influence.. a group is a thing of being together not to destroy and fight.. u guys are funny

[quote][b][user]K1MO[/user][/b] さんの発言： [quote][b]Quoth PhatCam[/b]: yeah the new group lists are phat. good work guys now one person can't ruin a whole groups chart.[/quote] ruin?? when a member is able to join a group he doesn't ruin charts, he brings new influence.. a group is a thing of being together not to destroy and fight.. u guys are funny[/quote]

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- AndyChrz の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 01:04
MERGING!!!

It's Christmas in February!!! Hooray!!!

My 2500+ mods have not gone in vain! Thank you to all the AS crew for the hard work, once again.

Here are the awesome record company groups that i lead here on Last.fm... Black Market Activities, Eulogy, Ferret, Ironclad, Lambgoat, Mediaskare, Metal Blade, Prosthetic, Roadrunner, Sumerian, Thorp, Trustkill, Willowtip

[quote][b][user]AndyChrz[/user][/b] さんの発言： MERGING!!! It's Christmas in February!!! Hooray!!! My 2500+ mods have not gone in vain! Thank you to all the AS crew for the hard work, once again.[/quote]

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- Russ の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 01:09
Re: Re:

Quoth K1MO:
Quoth PhatCam:
yeah the new group lists are phat. good work guys

now one person can't ruin a whole groups chart.

ruin?? when a member is able to join a group he doesn't ruin charts, he brings new influence.. a group is a thing of being together not to destroy and fight.. u guys are funny

Err, bullshit? If someone who has 100,000 tracks joins a small group where everyone else only has 1000 plays, they are going to completely take over that group's chart. I can't see how that's "bringing new influence", it's significantly skewing the statistics in favour of someone who has been around longer.

[quote][b][user]Russ[/user][/b] さんの発言： [quote][b]Quoth K1MO[/b]: [quote][b]Quoth PhatCam[/b]: yeah the new group lists are phat. good work guys now one person can't ruin a whole groups chart.[/quote] ruin?? when a member is able to join a group he doesn't ruin charts, he brings new influence.. a group is a thing of being together not to destroy and fight.. u guys are funny[/quote] Err, bullshit? If someone who has 100,000 tracks joins a small group where everyone else only has 1000 plays, they are going to completely take over that group's chart. I can't see how that's "bringing new influence", it's significantly skewing the statistics in favour of someone who has been around longer. [/quote]

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- K1MO の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 01:23
nah, ok. agree.
it's just that i like total listens more

[quote][b][user]K1MO[/user][/b] さんの発言： nah, ok. agree. it's just that i like total listens more[/quote]

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- room13 の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 01:45
You are all bloody marvellous :D

[quote][b][user]room13[/user][/b] さんの発言： You are all bloody marvellous :D[/quote]

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- Lukens の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 02:04
It great.

Though a total listens (aka: old style) chart would have been nice too.

Plus charts for sub-10-members groups :(

[quote][b][user]Lukens[/user][/b] さんの発言： It great. Though a total listens (aka: old style) chart would have been nice too. Plus charts for sub-10-members groups :([/quote]

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- ericg の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 02:09
love it but

Okay, this is a wierd one, but here goes:

My weekly chart shows I listened to The Mountain Goats 97 times. But the Mountain Goats don't show up in either of the two General Groups I founded, Austin City Limits and SXSW, even though the top artist for those two had 20 listens and 8 listens, respectively.

Clues?

[quote][b][user]ericg[/user][/b] さんの発言： Okay, this is a wierd one, but here goes: My weekly chart shows I listened to The Mountain Goats 97 times. But the Mountain Goats don't show up in either of the two General Groups I founded, [url=http://www.audioscrobbler.com/group/Austin%2BCity%2BLimits]Austin City Limits[/url] and [url=http://www.audioscrobbler.com/group/SXSW]SXSW[/url], even though the top artist for those two had 20 listens and 8 listens, respectively. Clues?[/quote]

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- Lukens の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 02:11
Re: love it but

Quoth ericg:
Clues?

Read the last post on the previous page.

[quote][b][user]Lukens[/user][/b] さんの発言： [quote][b]Quoth ericg[/b]: Clues?[/quote] Read the last post on the previous page. [/quote]

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- 2005年 02月 22日 02:18
do people read anything before they decide to post?

i think most people at least manage the opening post to a new thread.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] さんの発言： do people read anything before they decide to post? i think most people at least manage the opening post to a new thread. [/quote]

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- ttfp の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 02:25
So would it be possible to have the two formats up up some point? i.e. one set of charts for number of unique listeners, and the other for total track plays?

[quote][b][user]ttfp[/user][/b] さんの発言： So would it be possible to have the two formats up up some point? i.e. one set of charts for number of unique listeners, and the other for total track plays?[/quote]

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- Snob の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 02:28
I think it's a very bad idea to remove the old-style group charts. Now smaller groups don't have any use, and it's not likely they are going to grow this way.
I know there probably were a lot of reasons for doing this, and this is a great free service and all, but I am somewhat pissed about this. :(

[quote][b][user]Snob[/user][/b] さんの発言： I think it's a very bad idea to remove the old-style group charts. Now smaller groups don't have any use, and it's not likely they are going to grow this way. I know there probably were a lot of reasons for doing this, and this is a great free service and all, but I am somewhat pissed about this. :([/quote]

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- 2005年 02月 22日 02:39
One of my groups lost its running total stats?

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] さんの発言： One of my groups lost its running total stats?[/quote]

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- DFWtheBold の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 02:50
I had 2 Eagles now merged into 1. Good job.

But I still have 2 Afro Celts and 2 Alan Parsons Project.

GAF

[quote][b][user]DFWtheBold[/user][/b] さんの発言： I had 2 Eagles now merged into 1. Good job. But I still have 2 Afro Celts and 2 Alan Parsons Project.[/quote]

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- Lord_Indur の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 02:50
I like the most-listened charts, but I would VERY MUCH like to see the old top-lists stay as well. They were pretty much the reason for me joining many groups, and they show lots of interesting things.
Especially with member/owner approval groups, where the group can decide for themselves whether someone with lots of songs played is allowed in...

Think about it if you please.

From now on, ending a sentence with a proposition is something up which with I will not put.
-|- Winston Churchill

[quote][b][user]Lord_Indur[/user][/b] さんの発言： I like the most-listened charts, but I would VERY MUCH like to see the old top-lists stay as well. They were pretty much the reason for me joining many groups, and they show lots of interesting things. Especially with member/owner approval groups, where the group can decide for themselves whether someone with lots of songs played is allowed in... Think about it if you please.[/quote]

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- Shunt の発言...
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- 2005年 02月 22日 02:53
Re:

Quoth ttfp:
So would it be possible to have the two formats up up some point? i.e. one set of charts for number of unique listeners, and the other for total track plays?

Maby you could keep the old charts for the small groups and the new system for the big groups.

[quote][b][user]Shunt[/user][/b] さんの発言： [quote][b]Quoth ttfp[/b]: So would it be possible to have the two formats up up some point? i.e. one set of charts for number of unique listeners, and the other for total track plays?[/quote] Maby you could keep the old charts for the small groups and the new system for the big groups. [/quote]

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